Am removing the front cover on our 64 engine with AC. Have all 6 bolts that hold the pulley onto the damper removed, can wiggle the pulley BUT it will not come fully off the damper, Is there something other than dirt and rust that keeps the pulley from fully coming off?
Use a mallet to knock it off. More often than you would guess, people hammer the balancer in place. That mushrooms the flange and traps the pulley onto the balancer.
Thanks Russ will do that, maybe that means someone changed the timing chain and gears too? Will find out latter. Picked up a puller from advance auto and its bolts are a little short so thought it would be fine to seperate the pulley from the balancer to get the puller closer. Already found some longer bolts to use with the puller BUT would like to get the pulley off anyway.
NO NO NO and NOOOOOOOOOO. You will destroy the balancer by using long bolts. The holes for the puller bolts only go so far in. The bolt will bottom out into the rubber part of the balancer. If you go further than that, you will push the balancer part right off of the center hub. Don't ask how I know this. Just clean out the holes and go finger tight
Where is the mushroomed "flange" that you say is trapping the pulley on the balancer?
I am aware of not threading bolts to far into the balancer.
The puller from advance auto will NOT fit into the pulleys diameter and that is why I would need three longer bolts--than they provide in the puller kit)- to reach far enough in to the balancers' hole threads. .
Also why I would like to remove the pulley from the balancer BEFORE setting up the puller to remove the balancer from the crankshaft.
Let me know where this "mushroomed flange" is -- part of the pulley? crankshaft?
Will be working on the car tomorrow/saturday.
The round ring in the front of the balancer that sticks out past the pulley. It gets smashed out and traps the pulley.
Got it- did not know it had a round ring in there-- will see what we can do in morning.
Just watched that video,again, that Jason has on this site and I think I see what you mean by a "flange"
That would be what I needed to know.
Important to make an effort to be keeping the stock harmonic balancer in good condition as it is keeping the crankshaft in your car in proper balance as the name implies
The crank and balancer are balanced as a unite together before installed into the engine
Some having a need to change the balancer for another one due to damaging it have possibly had vibration issues in there drive train
Theses balancers can be damaged easily if you do not know what to watch out for as Russ has indicated
Often it is unknown what changes took place to the car before the current owner has purchased the car over the years
Using the proper care to remove and install the HB is very important for that reason
Drive train vibration issues are one of the more difficult issues to be trouble shooting and working thru as there are so many possible issues causing the problem from the front to the back of the car
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I have already lined up the position of the pulley to the balancer so it can be installed relative to the balancer as I have found it. Plan on using some emery cloth and possibly a dremel brush and trying to get that pulley off without beating the hell out of it.
Will see in a few hours if it loosens up more.
Question-- is the "flange" Russ talks about metal and actually the crank end?
Russ one of our best authorities on the subject of harmonic balancers
Sure he will be along shortly to answer
Removed the pulley and the damper-- thanks for the help.