Rear main Follow up replacement and repair,, - 63/64 Cadillac Website2024-03-29T15:56:50Zhttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/forum/topics/rear-main-follow-up-replacement-and-repair?commentId=6543066%3AComment%3A208811&feed=yes&xn_auth=nojust got giggles, i cleaned o…tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-12-01:6543066:Comment:2104802019-12-01T22:20:35.908ZKim K Kaiserhttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/profile/KimKKaiser
<p>just got giggles, i cleaned off the guide nipple, and packed some silicone on that piece and the hole that it comes out of today,, its that 90 minute stuff, so gave it couple hours ro so to dry, i was hopeful maybe it would block off the oil trail and that it was small and simple enough to go back up in to the pan, but not really thinking it would, but felt it was worth a try,</p>
<p>well, i did it and it stopped the leak from coming out of and down the nipple, it just pushed it back were…</p>
<p>just got giggles, i cleaned off the guide nipple, and packed some silicone on that piece and the hole that it comes out of today,, its that 90 minute stuff, so gave it couple hours ro so to dry, i was hopeful maybe it would block off the oil trail and that it was small and simple enough to go back up in to the pan, but not really thinking it would, but felt it was worth a try,</p>
<p>well, i did it and it stopped the leak from coming out of and down the nipple, it just pushed it back were it is coming out around the seal were the pan meets the bottom of the big round connection on the rear of the pan.. </p>
<p>i dont know if that is good or bad or is helpful info to anyone, but thats what happened, it just moved it back some,,still going to shop in next couple weeks.</p> 4.5 qt. Pint of zinc additive.tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-11-30:6543066:Comment:2106512019-11-30T01:25:26.840ZKim K Kaiserhttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/profile/KimKKaiser
4.5 qt. Pint of zinc additive.
4.5 qt. Pint of zinc additive. How much oil are you putting…tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-11-30:6543066:Comment:2106502019-11-30T01:10:58.366Z3ft7bqmb7dryohttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/xn/detail/u_3ft7bqmb7dryo
<p>How much oil are you putting in the car? Max is 5 quarts, regardless of the dip stick marks.</p>
<p>How much oil are you putting in the car? Max is 5 quarts, regardless of the dip stick marks.</p> I did more rootin under car d…tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-11-29:6543066:Comment:2106492019-11-29T23:45:22.331ZKim K Kaiserhttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/profile/KimKKaiser
<p>I did more rootin under car defiiteley dripping strait out of the opening around the center alignment nipple. May hv over smeared the rtv or left a chanell in there.</p>
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<p>Oil loss. 60 miles = 1/2 qurat low</p>
<p>I did more rootin under car defiiteley dripping strait out of the opening around the center alignment nipple. May hv over smeared the rtv or left a chanell in there.</p>
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<p>Oil loss. 60 miles = 1/2 qurat low</p> I will look into shop here n…tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-11-26:6543066:Comment:2104422019-11-26T18:47:25.124ZKim K Kaiserhttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/profile/KimKKaiser
<p>I will look into shop here n ms. Guve him all details of past efforts, and cut him loose on pan. Really does make a difference to get it on a lift , </p>
<p>I will look into shop here n ms. Guve him all details of past efforts, and cut him loose on pan. Really does make a difference to get it on a lift , </p> Kim, my gut feeling is still…tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-11-26:6543066:Comment:2105452019-11-26T13:13:24.609ZJason Edgehttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/profile/jasonedge
<p>Kim, my gut feeling is still with the oil pan rear pan gasket. If I have understood everything correctly the additional oil leaking has been after you removed the oil pan and replaced the seal. It is hard to imagine a new seal would cause more leaking, but could see a rear pan gasket leaking if the gasket is not seated properly. You have done the best you can and would get the shop to install the oil pan and gasket. They have probably removed and installed dozens and have a lift. They should…</p>
<p>Kim, my gut feeling is still with the oil pan rear pan gasket. If I have understood everything correctly the additional oil leaking has been after you removed the oil pan and replaced the seal. It is hard to imagine a new seal would cause more leaking, but could see a rear pan gasket leaking if the gasket is not seated properly. You have done the best you can and would get the shop to install the oil pan and gasket. They have probably removed and installed dozens and have a lift. They should be able to properly install the oil pan, leave inspection cover off, drive it up on the lift and see where leak is coming from. If they cannot do this I would definitely look for another shop.</p> Well i dnt kno wat to do nxt.…tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-11-25:6543066:Comment:2105422019-11-25T15:03:38.690ZKim K Kaiserhttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/profile/KimKKaiser
<p>Well i dnt kno wat to do nxt. I a. Going to chg the pan gasket, ine more time after exhayst gets fixed. I had some access issues that may hv led to bad installation of gasket an pan. </p>
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<p>If there is no way to disecern between pan and rear seal leak, wat else is there to do.</p>
<p>I feel pretty confident that the shop i took it too did it properly, he comes well recommeded,</p>
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<p>If after that, im just gonna kerp a 5 quart of oil bottle in car and…</p>
<p>Well i dnt kno wat to do nxt. I a. Going to chg the pan gasket, ine more time after exhayst gets fixed. I had some access issues that may hv led to bad installation of gasket an pan. </p>
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<p>If there is no way to disecern between pan and rear seal leak, wat else is there to do.</p>
<p>I feel pretty confident that the shop i took it too did it properly, he comes well recommeded,</p>
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<p>If after that, im just gonna kerp a 5 quart of oil bottle in car and carry on. </p>
<p>N</p> Right stuff 90 min permatex..…tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-11-23:6543066:Comment:2107272019-11-23T22:38:34.997ZKim K Kaiserhttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/profile/KimKKaiser
<p>Right stuff 90 min permatex<a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3738456044?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener">.. while i cnt show it here. Its going behind the vertcle plate as well. But seems to originste tight here <img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3738456044?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p>
<p>Right stuff 90 min permatex<a href="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3738456044?profile=original" target="_blank" rel="noopener">.. while i cnt show it here. Its going behind the vertcle plate as well. But seems to originste tight here <img src="https://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/3738456044?profile=RESIZE_710x" class="align-full"/></a></p> Yes, the long alignment one…tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-11-23:6543066:Comment:2105322019-11-23T22:11:18.415ZKim K Kaiserhttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/profile/KimKKaiser
<p>Yes, the long alignment one that pokes through the pan. In center in center. </p>
<p>Yes, the long alignment one that pokes through the pan. In center in center. </p> i know all are sick of readin…tag:6364cadillac.ning.com,2019-11-23:6543066:Comment:2105312019-11-23T21:12:23.659ZKim K Kaiserhttps://6364cadillac.ning.com/profile/KimKKaiser
<p>i know all are sick of reading about this,,but for the first time i saw oil come out,, i put on the new pan, not without misery, but got it on. </p>
<p>got it going,,, long story short,, leaking!</p>
<p>got back pulled bottom inspection pan.. and turn on, while engine was till hot from the 10 mile ride and just let it idle for a bout 15 minutes. i looked under lot of lights and could see it dripping off that alignment nipple, at a pretty good rate. so i got close as could, with engine…</p>
<p>i know all are sick of reading about this,,but for the first time i saw oil come out,, i put on the new pan, not without misery, but got it on. </p>
<p>got it going,,, long story short,, leaking!</p>
<p>got back pulled bottom inspection pan.. and turn on, while engine was till hot from the 10 mile ride and just let it idle for a bout 15 minutes. i looked under lot of lights and could see it dripping off that alignment nipple, at a pretty good rate. so i got close as could, with engine running and flywheel turning.. and it seems to be coming out at the contact point of the rubber gasket on the rear of the oil pan,,just left of the center nipple dripping down draining over, going to least resistance down the nipple, and what doesnt go down the nipple, slide down the silver piece or black, behind the vertical inspection plate onto the flywheel, making it somewhat damp,, what i did see on the enclosed side of the vehicle inspection plate was very little as i think it was just some through off on the spinning part. it was basically exactly how Jason described a few post up,,, </p>
<p>it was odd though as i Looked,, if you didnt look right away, the oil would slide of the front and the back of the inspection pan and basically dry, i guess because the heat had it so thin, and that is why in prior efforts, i never would see much if very very little on the front or back of that vertical pan, but the horizontal pan would have oil. being that the surfaces are almost slick clean from so many cleanings after removal. live and learn i guess...</p>
<p>now,, i am just guessing this is now an application/installation of oil pan error...if indeed that i what it is,, its a correct and unaltered pan. so it should go on wo problem, but i seem to have to do something 20 times to get it right,, </p>
<p>i have used the right stuff permex on top and bottom of the gasket,, sealing both sides. on the cork/felt gasket and on the rubber inserts on each end..</p>
<p>i dont really know what to do differently. I am also guessing the old pan with its imperfections was not seating as well due to the imperfections, i just never looked at it under the above outlined circumstances..</p>
<p>i am going to take to exhaust shop on monday,, get that done, get rid of that damn noisy cherry bomb thing and have a quiet something put on.. and repair existing pipe itself where i bent it getting it off the trailer.. what a e fing headache.. and, order another gasket for the pan. </p>
<p>SOOOOOO,,, any tips, tricks, materials ideas on how to make a good connection back there,,</p>
<p>im all eyes and ears...</p>