FML Hate the starter place ment and the fact ive taken it out like 4 times.

So i had my starter go out. so i got it completely r &r ed by a professional company, and when i went to go install it and fire it up, the starter made this grinding sound and the engine didnt turn over. the starter makes this grinding noise, ive Tried to rotate the starter little bit and it seems to have helped the connection to the fly wheel, as the car does turn over now, but its very slow. like its struggling.  it still dosnt sound like it should. Should i add a shimmy? or is there some other way to calibrate or make sure the teeth are lined up. motor is not locked up, battery is new all the wire is new and and the ground connections are good. when i moved the tranny fly wheel with a screw driver it did seem kinda hard to move. idk if thats normal or not.  Before i got my starter restored the car ran fine. mostly. It just took awhile to start up and eventually went out. Is the maybe a fuse that i blow somewhere. 

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Replaced all the wires and the connector and all the ground straps. maybe i have the wiering on the starter wrong? i wasnt sure if the black cable i have is the purple cable that the diogram refers too. im just super mad i cant get this going,

Based on your information, i would assume the guy who rebuilt it did a bench test prior to you getting it.

The very first thing, is to calm down a tad. Walk away for an hour and come back to it.

I would pull it off again and check for witness marks on the grinding noise first. Before you undo it, make sure its been sitting flush on the mounting flange.

A bench test of the starter would be my second thing to do.

Check your workshop manual on where each wire goes.

Good luck....

I had a guy tell me to losen the bolts and rotate the starter a little bit, about an 1/8th of an inch is waht i was able to do. and that did seem to help, its now catcing and turning over but its very weak and the sound is still nasty. 

Did you put the large ground strap back on?

You need to return the starter to the rebuilder and tell him it does not work so he should fix it
It should never make a grinding noise
The fact it turn slow could be other issues
You do need to walk away take a brake and think out your experience
Making decisions in an emotional state is just not a good idea most of the time

Battery - did you charge it ?
Check the battery fluid level
Terminals need to be cleaned ( or cable ends replaced and wiring wire brushed ) this can make a big difference
Replacing the cables is an option
More than once just cleaning up the terminals will be the difference between night and day

The boys here can get you through anything you wil need to know about our year cars

All the wires are new running from the battery to the starter and all the wires that connect to the starter. im just mad i spent so much money to have a starter that dosnt work. lol. what do you think some common problems of a slow crank are?

Sometimes it is the obvious things that bite us in the butt. I have all these smart TV's and sometime I have a video ripped with DTS sound (vs Dolby Digital) and have to adjust the sound output on my Samsung Smart TV's. I just stood there like an idiot for 10 minutes turning the receiver on & off, TV on and off, resetting audio out and nothing. It finally dawned on me to check the volume.... I had it turned all the way down! With all that nonsense, I would go back to what Russ asked regarding the Large Ground Strap. Are you sure it is tight at the RH frame rail and the back of the engine? Did you use the same starter bolt it was attached to before. After the main 12 volt feed, that large braided ground strap is the next most important part of the electrical circuit to the starter.   You mentioned all the ground connections and ground straps are good, but did not cite the large frame to starter strap by name.  I would give that 9/16" flange head bolt an extra tug where it mounts to the frame to make sure it is biting into the frame metal, and double check where it connects at the back of engine at starter.

Be very sure the battery negative connection to the frame ( located under the battery ) is clean and shinny metal and tight
Many electrical things in our cars will come to life by cleaning the ground connection
I had to return my 64 starter for my turbo 400 trans ( the hydramatic is a different starter ) that was rebuild to my rebuilder twice if it makes you feel any better
He repaired it at last and it has been in the car a lot of years now

Looks to me you addressed the positive cable from the battery to the starter mostly
Be sure the negative cable is well grounded as i stated above
The negative ground from my experience is the side that requires more attention than the poitive
Make all contact points very clean and shinny

Once the starter is working as it should ( repaired again ) with a strong battery and connections the cars state of tune would determine how quick it fires up And settles into a smooth idle


Gee where did i here that before
Please read the thread before you make a statement that has been made above you




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