Hey everyone, I am one of the newest members to the club and I am looking for a suitable vehicle to purchase. I found this one for sale in Montana (link https://www.carsforsale.com/vehicle/details/75623973) I realize that I am a rookie when it comes to looking and accessing one of these beautiful cars..so I would appreciate any input from you experienced people. I you have some time could you take a look at the pictures on the link and let me know what you think? Thx Pat Westphal
It looks ok but no hi-res photos are provided. When you click on the magnifying glass another photo practically the same size pops up. The car has A/C vents but does not have Climate Control in the dash. This indicates the car was possible cobbled together so the "37,250 miles" is suspect. Dual exhaust was added and driveline work has been performed but curiously not one photo of the engine/engine bay.
All things considered, it could be a good car for the money but best to have a knowledgeable inspector check it out thoroughly 1st.
"not one photo of the engine/engine bay" ...But about 50 of the front, front qtr, rear and a door open with 5 degree angles of each other! LOL. I had commented offline and the resolution and lack of anything regarding the engine bay were among several of my issues. It is obviously not a 37K mile car (obviously rolled over... but probably only once) and has had some "work" over the years on interior and underside. The AC thing was a good catch. Just hard to tell form 800x low/medium res pictures taken from 15 feet back. I would normally zoom straight into the pedals to look at the wear but all you see here is fuzz if you save off line and zoom in.
Jason, I was disapponted in that also but that was going to be a requirement from them before I was ever going to commit to a trip to Montana. As I spent my entire GM career in the Powertrain Division the 429.THM400 combination is a major reason that I am focused on wanting a 64 Deville or Eldorado. With my engine experience I will be able to hear,see, smell, and feel things in the powertrain combination that many others will not. Yes the idle comment grabbed my interest - I needed to experience that engine to see if it was just a "Carb adjustment" or something more like a bad cylinder. Thanks for the feedback - Pat
Do not at all like - that it the add says the car does not idle as a Cadillac should and needs a carb adjustment — just seller BS
That could be a minor or major engine issue that needs attention or a major engine rebuild
In these years an engine usually would require a major overhaul with over 100,000 miles which Is surely the case here unlike newer cars that go 200,000 miles today
Ask to have a mechanic look over the entire car—- do a compression test ( to determine engine soundness ) and tell you what it may need which will always make the price negotiable
The price is a bit high for a car that may need considerable engine and additional other work to be road worthy
Price is reasonable to me if the car needs nothing only
A lot of pictures to show the car has very little rust issues and is in good shape which makes it a good car to invest in if bought at the right price knowing what it needs to make it a sound road worthy car
Brake work in most cases is required at a minimum
Need more info on the condition of the engine for sure - if the AC and heat is working - windows are working - top is working and all other creature comforts work
Tires look old and need new
I love all black Cadillacs —as I had a 62 that was all black that was the start of my endless LOVE of early 60’s air conditioned Cadillacs convertibles
I think the car looks very sound and knowing what you need to invest in it to bring it up to your needs will help you determine if the project is desirable for you to jump into
That said — owning one of these cars is truly a very very amazing experience that causes a commotion where ever you take it while giving you one of the very best Cadillac rides in amazing style and performance
This is a luxury Hot Rod —with a 429 cu in engine and 340 HP stock —-with looks that Kill !!!!
That should help you some
Thanks to those who fed back comments - I really appreciate those and points out the things that I need to look for in these vehicles. Now for the rest of the story - I called them back yesterday as the person who knew the most about the car was not there on Monday and found out that the person who owned the car changed their mind and no longer wanted to sell the vehicle. This is frustrating for me because that was the first question I asked (and I asked it twice in fact) as I realized that looking at vehicle on the internet has that as a possibility. So back to square one, I am actively looking for a 64 Deville red, black or blue. And the search goes on... again thanks for the feedback - that is what makes being a part of this club worth it!
The ad is still up. They might be waiting for that eager buyer who doesn't ask questions.
Hello, Are you looking for a fixer upper or one ready to roll?
I am looking for one ready to roll as I don't have the tools or shop to put a vehicle on a lift or to pull an engine/ trans to put it on a stand to work on it.With that said I am fine with doing work on a car such as switching out drum brakes for disc, updating the distributor to electronic ignition, and things like that.If fact I expect to do update/maintenance items on a 57 year old vehicle. I just don't have the equipment to do much of the heavy things myself. I do have access to other people who do that type of work but that is more $$$. BTW I am a retired engineer with 34 years at GM and started at the Cadillac Engineering building in 1985, so I guess you could say I have a little bit of inside knowledge of the vehicle.
Love that you have a background with GM regarding these cars and you want and need one for yourself
That says a lot to me about the quality of the build that went into these cars back in the day that you know and were a part of
One thing I added offline I forgot to mention, those look like Flowmaster Mufflers with the dual exhaust setup. I had them on my 64 CDV for a while when I was running duals it it was LOUD! If you want to hear the engine and have the hot rod sound from the 390/429 they will give you a deep throaty sound. If you are after a more subdued Cadillac sound this is not it!
Noticed it's missing the boomerang trim under the headlight on the drivers side. Also it's got Fleetwood filler panels out back and the emblems on the rear quarters aren't present. I think you could pick up a really nice DeVille convertible for about $18,000.00 if you keep a lookout. Dealers like this always charge more than it's worth. Check the private market.
Chris nailed it!