Norm Waters
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63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first

Started this discussion. Last reply by Tony and Ginny 429 Aug 8. 17 Replies

Hello everyone. I had a perfectly good shifting Hydra-Matic transmission until I elected to fix the leak at the dip stick tube. I just did a quick seal with gasket maker since my current tube is…Continue

 

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Tony and Ginny 429 replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"Norm Very happy  you are back in action with some time and help from your Cadillac friends and minimum expense  Enjoy having her back !  Enjoy "
Aug 8
Norm Waters replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"It was the governor. Both valves were stuck, a good cleaning and refill and all is good. I was amazed at the torque someone had but on the rear extension bolts. I had to use a half inch impact wrench to break them loose! Same at the universal flange…"
Aug 8
Norm Waters replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"Thank you again for all your help and knowledge. If the gasket gets here tomorrow I’ll give it a shot!"
Aug 5
Mark S Anderson replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"The valve body is somewhat protected by the filter, and is usually 'self-cleaning'.   I actually doubt that silicone would survive long in there.  I'd focus first on the governor weights, then drop the pan and clean it…"
Aug 5
Norm Waters replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"Mark, Russ and Tony Thank you for your reply’s and the willingness to help a new Series 62 owner. I.m learning this sight is invaluable to the owners of theses cars. I know my way around a wrench but am a bit nervous about tearing into an…"
Aug 5
Tony and Ginny 429 replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"Mark  Thank you much for your explanation and  your understanding of the Hydramatic trans  love when a subject gets the attention it does on this super site for our year Super Classic Antique  Cadillac owners  Enjoy "
Aug 5
Mark S Anderson replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"Unfortunately, by the 63 model year, the Hydramatic's days were numbered, and the theory of operation info in the shop manual is quite sparse.  There are just perfunctory images and no hydraulic flow diagrams at all.  I guess by 63…"
Aug 4
Tony and Ginny 429 replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"I think it should read —G1 passage valve is stuck closed  I think we just corrected the Service Manual on the subject Enjoy "
Aug 4
Norm Waters replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"Tony Thanks for the reply, so there isn’t a G1 valve as stated in item (a) “G1 valve stuck closed”? Thanks for your continued help, I just want to tear it apart once. "
Aug 4
Tony and Ginny 429 replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"G1 is a passage that could be obstructed  — as of item d on the  bottom of the chart you posted - so not a valve  Enjoy "
Aug 4
Norm Waters replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"I thought that as well except that valve is called G2 on the exploded view in the manual. I can't find any mention in any exploded views of a G1 valve. There is a G1 passage in Fig 6-6 transmission case oil passages. Thanks"
Aug 4
Mark S Anderson replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"G1 valve they refer to is in the governor assembly, i believe.  It is the valve that opens and closes when the weights move."
Aug 4
Norm Waters replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"Russ I believe you are right. I went back out and ran the diagnostic tables and came up with a condition 2-9602 which is an 11 on diagnosis index chart. See attached chart which would lead me to believe it is the governor. I'm waiting on the…"
Aug 4
Russ Austin replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"Only think I can figure is that debris fell into the trans and settled into the governor.  "
Aug 4
Tony and Ginny 429 replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"The TV Rod on the carb of a 63 controls the  trans shift points  Just be sure all looks as it should on the carbs linkage in that location ( nothing loose or falling off )  Just some basics that come to mind  Enjoy"
Aug 3
Norm Waters replied to Norm Waters's discussion 63 Hydra-Matic won't shift out of first
"Yes got the everything up to temp and checked level it was a about half a pint low. I left it running and added to the full mark. Still nothing above 1st gear. "
Aug 2

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Do you own any 1963 & 1964 Cadillacs? If Yes, Year & Body Style
1963 convertible
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Unknown part, maybe the last one?

Started by Matti Roth in Restoration Discussion 4 minutes ago. 0 Replies

Hithanks to great help from chapter members I am getting my 64 Deville ready, slowly but surely.There is only one part still unclear, or actually three bolts and nuts. They are clearly different from…Continue

1964 THM Tilt Neutral Safety Switch

Started by Charles Fares in For Sale 8 hours ago. 0 Replies

For Sale:Excellent used neutral safety switch for 1964 with THM and tilt steering.  Part number 1993653, or short number "653".  Send me an e-mail: faresmcmthelix@msn.com.Charles FaresLa Mesa,…Continue

You Know You Are Into Some Serious Car Doctor When You Have to Get the Ice Out!

Started by Jason Edge in 1963/64 Cadillac Specific Discussion. Last reply by Charles Fares 9 hours ago. 13 Replies

You know you are into some serious car doctoring when you have to get the ice packs out. More to come on my 64 Coupe de Ville resuscitation in the next 1963/64 Cadillac Chapter Newsletter!  Mades…Continue

Leaky Windshield

Started by Tom Bahner in General Discussion. Last reply by Tony and Ginny 429 13 hours ago. 3 Replies

Hey all, has anyone had their windshield removed and resealed successfully. I'm pretty skittish about having someone mess with my perfectly good glass knowing that these cars are a little different…Continue

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1963 series 62 convertible transmission issue

Posted by Matthew VanDeWater on June 22, 2021 at 3:03pm 1 Comment

Hello I've been restoring a 63 for way to many years. Down to almost done, but have issue with trans linkage, when column in park shift rod 2 inches short. everything original. been trying to find picture of manual rod hooked up from under car to see position of linkage. was wondering if anybody has access for pictures. I wanted to see if my manual linkage is bent  wrong out of the trans if somebody dropped the trans or something. Doesn't make sense why it doesn't work. Thanks for any input…

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New vehicle in the club

Posted by Patrick Westphal on June 17, 2021 at 4:00pm 1 Comment

I was successful in getting a vehicle from the New York contact I talked about at the last club meeting. I am still trying to figure out how to post a picture of the vehicle that is tied with this comment so if you see a random picture of a black convertible in a yard, that's me haha.  …

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Torque converter grab when idling in Drive

Posted by Cliff Johnston on June 14, 2021 at 8:47pm 2 Comments

Hi Everyone, been quite a while since i have been on here.

I have had an issue with the idle on my 64 Coupe Deville ever since i have had it.

With the Idle set high enough that it is smooth, but still a nice idle, the RPM seems only slightly too high for the stall of the Torque Converter. And therefore it tends to sit there and grab and lunge a bit. So until now, i have been putting the car in Neutral at the lights to stop this happening.

I've had the car dyno tuned and…

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Can you help? Driveshaft Question....

Posted by Chris on May 30, 2021 at 8:55am 1 Comment

Hello!

Newbie to the group here - we have already found tons of invaluable information on the board, so thanks! We are restoring a 1963 Series 62 Convertible. We are wondering if anyone knows of a source to buy the propellor yoke flange (that bolts to the pinion flange) for the driveshaft? One of our ears partially broke off. Not sure if we can buy just the yoke flange as an aftermarket part, or if it has to be rebuilt by a welder/fab guy? Maybe a salvage yard for a source? Again, any…

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