Per Tony, i am starting a new thread on my adventures with this rear main leak,
i posted a video on a 390 engine of a rear main seal replacement but the engine was out of the car,, gave some insight as to sealing and materials etc.
One of my neighbors has a hoist,(yeah!) and has allowed me to use it,, makes it a lot easier than rolling around on the asphalt in the street and is enough higher that its not too confining under there. I did have to pay attention to the lift points though as it seems you cant just put those lift arms wherever you want..
As of this evening, I have taken the exhaust loose, the steering loose, and the starter is out,, took about 4 hours to do that. I guess there is nothing earthshaking to report on any of this. Tomorrow, I will take the pan off and proceed from there.
To be clear before proceeding.
the 63 manual says to insert the bearings in there slots, do not pull off wax coating as that will aid in insertion. I do not see any wax on my gasket, so my guess they had it on the old ones.,,
Now, the question here is,, do i add a touch of oil or something to aid in that insertion process,, the manual does not suggest it, as i describe above, or, just insert dry, as is..
it does say apply rubber cement to cap and block mating surfaces, and gasket ends, but that is the only reference in the 63 manual regarding lubricaitng the seal for installation,, so is that correct?? insert dry??
the you tube video says to use lubridation after insertion so it wont be dry on start up, so i plan to do that as well.
i will try to take a few photographs of things once i get the pan off, i m sure most have seen the underside, but its my first venture in there and post them for reference.
Oh OK. I saw some fibers in the pic & assumed that was a sliced rubber seal. If the bearing cap metal is that damaged, what does the crank look like?
Appears and feels smooth
I am not at all understanding your photos myself
I see no groves for the seal to be sitting in on that bearing housing and the end bearing cap in the video was a much wider one than the one you removed
Pretty sure you found your leak source
Can you remove the old seal and see if your new one looks like it will work on that end cap ?
Interested in weather the seal has a sealer holding it on or is it sealer free
By examining the other side of where that bearing cap came off try to determine what might have put that slice in the bearing seal
That can not be a good thing
I originally thought the cuts were in the rubber.
now it looks like they are in metal.
that will never seal up, but if you replace it, you have to get it align bored.
this is a pickle
Ok. Well at one level, thats good, at second level. Not good. May just try to find bearing, and do now while up. Are they a hard item to find?
Tony, all. Addl pictures. There are 4 watvappear to be slices in the first rib touchs the inside of the seal. The seal will fit. The seal was very hard to pull out of cap. I dread doing topside as its gonna hv to be pounded out and inam very concerned acout dmg to flat side of upper cap getting nicked due to the tightness of the seal to the channel it is in. There was maybe a hit of sealant on the cap connections,
Jason and Russ
We could use you advice on this find
This looks worse the more I look at it
I need to see more of it
It looks to me as though this cap has been repaired quite badly on the left side of the image.
It may have cracked and been welded back together (or brazed or *gasp* epoxied), and that would explain the hack job with the whiz wheel that we see.
You can change the seal and hope for the best, since the car was running, or remove the engine, strip it down and give it to a machine shop or replace the block.
You cannot simply replace the bearing cap unless you take it to a machine shop, so that they can align bore the replacement cap with a honing mandrel. The caps aren't uniform from block to block, they need to be precisely fitted to the block they are installed in. If you replace the cap without the machine work, you stand a very good chance of destroying the crank journal. (close to 100% chance)
here are the cleaned up photos that you pointed out..
Here are cleaned up photos that u requested