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[Kim K Kaiser]

big sigh!!!  well, i found the bleeders weren't  quite tight enough, so the last couple of runs through town i have and no brake leaks,  brakes feel ok, may have been i was so used to bad ones, didnt know what a good push was,, ANYWAY,, 

the starter....

since i replaced the starter back in november, i had the ignition switch go out,(wiring fried)  so for most of the last month, i have used the hot wire method.  seemed to do ok, just cant do it and go anywhere.  

i did notice when i used a generic 3 prong starter from parts store, i left it hooked up over night.  not on, and not in the accessory position,  the next day, the battery was dead.  charged and it started right up

So i just figured, until I get the replacement that fit with the 4 prongs, i would just hot wire, and undo the black post at night or when not in use.

so yesterday, i got all the parts in and hooked up the starter, and bammm,, fired right up,  took my rides, tested brakes,,,etc... came home parked it for an hour or two,, went back to go for another short ride, and i got that dreaded,, hard to turn over sound.  but it would turn over on about the third slow clunk and start.,, went for my ride, came back, parked and shut down for the night,, un did the black at battery.  

this morning, after checking for brake leaks, hooked it up, and it started right up like one would expect.  went for about a 20minute ride.,, came home,, went in side for about 20 minutes, came back out, and got that slow slow turn over.. it would nt start so i turned it off,, checked the battery, had appropriate cold charge volts,  waited about 45 more minutes. went out, tried it again,  tightened down the black,, got two slow turns and then it started,,took it for a ride,,, came back, test battery with engine on, and was well up in the 14's so from what i have read, it was doing what it was supposed to,

now I dont have ANY idea what to do now,  I'm fearful of turning off somewhere as it may not start.  but, i have found that after a long time, hours or so, and the battery undone, i can go out and it will do fine.  

i have been using gunk remover, and shooting water under engine cleaning the underside and engine over the last two weeks when i did nt have a working something to do on the car.  maybe some old wiring is bad? i just dont know,,could it be a fuse?  grounds are all there and tight, i mean if the starter is a non working part once the car is started, what else could cause this sort of hot start issue,, battery???  it works good cold, but not when its been on an running and then to follow up with a start.

I know yall are getting sick of my questions, but i have no were else to turn, you tube only covers so much and so much is on modern stuff...

[3n49omug8n28i]

The timing is wrong, have a professional set your timing. If that's not it put your other starter back in. 

[Kim K Kaiser]

Ok.  Going to try to go today

[3n49omug8n28i]

He's stated many times the battery is not draining 

[Kim K Kaiser]

Tony,  the battery may not be draining,   it was fine this morning,, car fired up immediately,, i dont know why it had drained that time or two, maybe the burned out coil from the petronix, or i  may have left those hot wires touching by accident, i dot know, but it seems to be holding now,, so, i am still going to take it in to chk the battery, it may well be weak anyway ,, 

[3ft7bqmb7dryo]

I don't think it is the timing, as the engine is sensitive to too much timing. The engine will ping with about 8 or more deg timing.

[Kim K Kaiser]

I have it dead set on 5. Per manual.  

[3n49omug8n28i]

Try zero timing....it's easier than changing a starter. 

[3n49omug8n28i]

Every car that I've ever had a hot starting problem with was to much initial timing. Small cam and to much initial timing don't go together. Turn timing back  5-10 degrees if no change you probably have a starter problem. 

[Kim K Kaiser]

Ok, so. Currently,  when i shoit my light gun at the markers, the white line hits at exactly the 5 mark,  u are suggesting i undo the distibutor, and turn it towards the 10 marker or zero marker?  Should nt i experience very rough running condition at those levels? 

[3n49omug8n28i]

Turn to the zero or minus 5

[Kim K Kaiser]

What am i looking/listening for, as i stated earlier, from 10 to 0, just a minor idle increase,  hardly visible

[3n49omug8n28i]

You're our #1 cheer leader extraordinaire Big Tony