Trivia Question 2 - 1963 Cadillacs with Bucket Seats

[Jason Edge]

OK...let's see who get's the Cigar today!!

Trivia Question #2: What Percentage of 1963 Model Year Cadillacs came with bucket seats?

[Jason Edge]

Ken, My Ward's Automotive yearbook do not have it broken down to that detail, just overall option % for the entire year for all body styles. I would expect somewhere in the GM Archives there are such numbers but I have never seen it.

If I had to do some wild guessing I would estimate over 2/3's of the 1825 Eldorado's came with bucket seats, since it was a no cost option... so of the 4,569 we know came with bucket seats I would guess  1200 Eldos with bucket seats. That leaves you with 3369 bucket seats that went in to other cars. I am sure the Series 62 convertibles would have had a very high comparative % and could see as many as 10% to 15% of the 17,600 produced for another wild guess of 2200 (12.5%) Series 62 convertibles with bucket seats. So my extremely wild guess, before coffee this morning is

1,200 Eldos
2,200 Series 62 Convertibles  
1,169 going toward the other body styles eligible for for bucket seats (Coupe de Ville, 4 Window Sedan de Ville, Park Avenue Sedan de Ville)

Regardless don't hold me to any of this.. just some guessing on my part.

[Ken Stout]

Thanks for the reply Jason and greatly appreciated. Yea there's a '64 Eldorado conv. thats registered for Mecum here in Indy in a couple of weeks and in the description they say one of 1870 with buckets so it made me curious about mine and also where they got that info.

I'll do some digging and see what I can find. If I learn anything I'll let you know.

Thx again!

[Jason Edge]

Ken, there were 1,870 Eldorados produced for the 1964 Model year but that would have included buckets and bench seat. Like for the 1963, my info does not break down bucket seat % by body style and would again guess about 2/3's for 1964 since it was a again a no cost option and popular for the convertibles.  That would calculate to another wild guess of about 1245 1964's with bucket seats. Again, just my guess based on observation over the years. 

[Kevin Campbell]

I wonder, if any maniac ever put buckets in a Fleetwood?

I would think, it highly unlikely, but stranger things have happened.

[Ian Osborne]

I don't think it was a Fleetwood but I remember Jason parting out a four-door of some sort that had buckets. An interesting difference is they didn't have to fold forward for someone to get in the back seat so the backs were fixed.

[Jason Edge]

Bucket seats were available as follows:

1963:
Eldorado Biarritz (no cost optional)
Series 62 Convertible
Coupe de Ville
Sedan de Ville 4 Window
Sedan de Ville Park Avenue
Sedan de Ville 6 Window (special order option)

1964:
Fleetwood Eldorado
de Ville Convertible
Coupe de Ville
Sedan de Ville 4 Window
Sedan de Ville 6 Window (special order option)

NOTE: in the 1964 Spec Manual in one section it says not available for Fleetwood 60 Special, but in a bucket seat availability chart it says "Communicate with Central Office for information" which makes me believe if someone pushed hard enough they might have been able to order a 64 Fleetwood 60 Special with bucket seats. It would have had the "Fleetwood" correct center console with the Baku wood grain panel on top cover, and seats may have been from the Eldorado altered to lock in place and not tilt forward.

From memory I believe I have brought in at least 2 Sedan's with bucket seats, maybe 3. All were of course Sedan de Villes.

no cost option on the 1963 Eldorado Biarritz, and 1964 Fleetwood Eldorado.

They were optional items for 1963 Series 62 Convertible, 4 Window Sedan de Villes and Sedan de Ville Park Avenue. They were special order optional items for the

[Jason Edge]

2nd Part of this question...and one Tony will really find amusing.... What Percentage of 1963 Model Year Lincolns came with bucket seats?

[Jason Edge]

ps... for Extra points why do I use that particular picture when I congratulate someone and say they "get the cigar"?.  This is not car related... but if you know your Rock N Roll it will be easy.

[Jason Edge]

So, Lincoln had a higher % of AC equipped cars in 1963 than Cadillac. Who wants to guess at the % of 1963 Lincolns with bucket seats?

[Tony and Ginny 429]

I strongly dislike ( hate ) bucket seats
They can stiffle your sex life as a young stud
Can not --get a little --in the front seat with bucket seats
BA-DA --BING in the front seat with the doors open --AAAAAAAAA !
I can still vaguly remember those days ---Kevin --foggy images appear in the distance


No stinking Lincoln detail info here !
WE ARE THE CLASSIC ANTIQUE CADILLAC ---ELITE BOYS !!!
I should just break into a cheer here -- for Clovis

Jason --do be careful the the CLC guys could find out you are doing this
Educating yourself about those Other Cars
The consequences are severe i have been told
Consequences are much like the sexual harasment issues we are dealing with on a daily basis
Out the door you go
You have been properly warned what can transpire LOL PMSL !! !

You guys are the best --Happy Thanksgiving --even to the --foreigners --who do not have this eat until you explode Holiday

Enjoy

[Ian Osborne]

I would have only been guessing at the original question but I'm pretty sure I know the answer to extra points part:

That photo is from  the album cover of "Wish You Were Here"by Pink Floyd and that album contains the song "Have a Cigar" 

I'll also take a stab at the Lincoln part of the question because As much as I like my '63 Caddy, I also really like the four door Lincoln convertibles.

I'll guess 0% figuring bucket seats were not offered for '63 Lincolns.

[Jason Edge]

Ian knocks it Waaaaaaaay out of the park in the extra points questions. 0 bucket seats in 1963 Lincolns, and picture is cover of Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here album, which included the song "Have a Cigar!". Speaking of cigars, Ian... Have a Couple of Cigars!