Good morning all,

I am a new member to your chapter...exited to be here.

I posed my question to Jason in an email, but figured I would ask the group for their insight also.

My 64 was a non ac car and I will be installing a Vintage Air Magnum system.  I got the original motor mounts from Caddy Daddy and a new A6 style compressor from Old Air.  I am questioning what to do with the cooling fan.  From my reading on the forum, the non ac cars had a different fan setup (4 blades compared to 5 with a clutch fan).

What would you recommend ---

1. Install an electric helper fan against the radiator.

2. Replace the 4 blade with a clutch and 5 blade.

3. Replace the 4 blade with a 7.

Also, should I add a shroud?

Thanks in advance of your responses,

Bob

Views: 155

Reply to This

Replies to This Discussion

Here are my 2 cents: I would upgrade the fan to either a 5 blade clutch fan or 7 blade and install a fan shroud to increase air flow through the condenser. Since you are adding a/c, I assume a high density parallel flow condenser will be installed. If so, you shouldn't need to add an electric pusher fan as well. I converted my factory a/c to R134a refrigerant so I did add a pusher fan since I'm using the factory condenser. The factory condenser is good enough for R12 but does not transfer heat as efficiently as a parallel flow condenser.

Thanks for the advice Kurt.  From reading, it looks like the 7 blade would mount directly to the original non ac spacer.  Seems like the easiest route.  Does the shroud on these caddy's mount to the radiator or the radiator support? 

Bob

The shroud mounts to the radiator supports. Pics below.

At the very least, get the shroud. It's amazing how much that helps suck in more air...especially when you're driving at less than highway speeds. 

Kind of surprised they built the non A/C cars without them. But, they did.  (Shrouds were just starting to catch on, in the early '60s. Eventually, just about every water-cooled car in America got a shroud.) 

Just as an FYI:  Remember that electric fans (pusher or otherwise) require quite a bit of current to operate. If you still have the stock alternator, you might want to upgrade to a higher-output. 

Thanks to all that responded.  Found a guy with a 5 blade fan, rebuilt clutch and shroud.  

RSS

Photos

  • Add Photos
  • View All

Forum

Gear for power vent window

Started by James Barnes in Restoration Discussion. Last reply by Kurt yesterday. 1 Reply

Im having a hard time locating the gear for the power vent window in my 64 Eldo. The existing one has 14 teeth and all I seem to be finding are ones with 17 teeth. Any suggestions?ThanksContinue

Rare Society of Automotive Engineers "The 1964 Cadillac Comfort Control" 1964 publication

Started by Jeff Tepper in 1963/64 Cadillac Specific Discussion on Sunday. 0 Replies

HI all,I found this publication on Ebay last year and bought it immediately. No one has told me that they have ever seen or heard of this publication.It was put out by the Society of Automotive…Continue

Check out Marlina & David Stone's 1964 Coupe de Ville in January Self-Starter

Started by Jason Edge in Chapter Discussion. Last reply by Mack on Sunday. 2 Replies

We have another 63/64 Chapter Member spotlighted in the January 2025 Self-Starter.   In the "Letters to the Editor" section on page 6, you will see the picture below of Marlina & David Stone's…Continue

Christmas 2024 with the 1964 Fleetwood 60 Special

Started by Logan Robb in 1963/64 Cadillac Specific Discussion. Last reply by Jason Edge Jan 21. 3 Replies

A little late posting, but figured some may enjoy seeing it post holiday to keep the winter blues away!My wife, Annie, and I had a great time with the Fleetwood before the salt hit the roads here in…Continue

Blog Posts

'63 Tailfin Tales

Posted by Mark Mata on January 14, 2025 at 12:06am 1 Comment

New old stock seat material

Posted by Ray Schick on August 22, 2024 at 6:25pm 2 Comments

I bought this seat material thinking that it’s…

Continue

Loud air moving sound within carb with cleaner removed

Posted by Dave Fehrle on March 23, 2024 at 3:23pm 8 Comments

While checking my Carter carb with engine running, I took the air cleaner off and there was a very loud hissing sound of air. I placed a piece of paper over the carb and it didn’t move up or down, is this normal?

Vintage Air AC

Posted by Chase on March 21, 2024 at 5:55am 0 Comments

Hey everyone, has anybody done a Vintage Air AC/Heat setup in their car? I want to bypass the old vacuum setup and go with a Vintage Air Gen 2 model. Before I get started, does anyone have any experience with this? (Which model to go with, do’s and dont’s, etc.) It looks pretty involved. Any and all info/pics would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Videos

  • Add Videos
  • View All

© 2025   Created by Jason Edge.   Powered by

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service