Length of webbing center front seat belt

[Christian Doerk]

Does anyone know the length of the webbing of the center front seat belt? Or can anyone measure it? I got a knuckle and have the correct webbing material.

[1bt7pektvt387]

Christian,

Jason had posted this in the help section:

http://6364cadillac.ning.com/photo/illustration2?context=album&...

And this:

http://6364cadillac.ning.com/forum/topics/seat-belt-fabric-length

Although no dimension is given for a front center belt, It seems likely to me that it would be the same as the other front belts without a retractor. Unfortunately that dimension is not given here. 

I do have a pair of non-retracting belts that I believe came original in my '63 convertible. I can measure those for you if you want.

[Christian Doerk]

Thank you Jason. If you would measure the center webbing this would be great. I have the seat belt installation instructions too, but without any dimensions.

[2o93f8rdftyzj]

I have the factory belts in mine, I can measure it late on today.

I always run with the arm rest down, and I have to be honest, I don't recall a centre belt in the Fleetwood.

[Christian Doerk]

That would be great! In Germany we need seat belts at the front center seating position to have the permission transporting 3 persons on the front bench if the outer positions already have seat belts.

[1bt7pektvt387]

Christian,

This is what I have. The short (non buckle) side is 21" and the buckle side is 42" total. I photographed that one with the buckle set half way. Obviously these measurements do not include the material that is folded over and stiched.

[1bt7pektvt387]

These measurements are very close to the ones Jason has for the retracting belts in the help section.

[Christian Doerk]

Perfect! Thank you so much!

[3ajph0yo8gz7j]

Hi Christian. I checked your german, let me call it traffic law, and i saw that when a car is original and came for the first time on the road before 1970, seatbelts were not obligated. Kein anschnallpflicht.

[Christian Doerk]

Yes you are right if you are an adult :) Kids until 12 have to buckled up, no matter what year the car was build. It's a big problem with cars, which never had seat belts. You always need a special inspection if you add seat belts in that kind of car. That was the reason I added seat belts. My boys are 4 and 7 now.

If you don't have seat belts, the car always will be registered with 5 seats. If you have seat belts on all 6 positions, you can add the 6th passenger in your papers. Wired but that's the law in Germany ;)

[3ajph0yo8gz7j]

Wichtiger Hinweis der Juristen: Seit 2006 gelten neue Regeln, insbesondere bei der Mitnahme von Kindern. Kinder unter 3 Jahren haben in einem Oldtimer ohne Gurte nichts verloren. Bis zu einer Körpergröße von 1,50 m oder 12 Jahren müssen sie hinten Platz nehmen. Hat der Oldtimer nur auf den Vordersitzen Gurte, so gehört das Kind in gesichertem Kindersitz auf den Beifahrersitz.
Not sure if this goes for you. Looks like you need a special seat.

[Christian Doerk]

Yes, that's right, too. Kids until 1,5 meter or 12 years always needs a child seat. But that doesn't have anything to do with a classic car. It's the law anyway :)

[2o93f8rdftyzj]

Oh man, ripped off.

I went out to measure my front centre (Oz Spelling) belts and the mighty Fleetwood doesn't have one. :-(